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【銘機】Thorens トーレンス TD124 MkII 9万番台 付属品あり
        

  • Product Quantity
    : 1
  • Starting Bid
    :1,000円
  • Highest Bidder
    : sky******** / Rating:578
  • Listing Date
    :2025年12月14日 04時39分
  • Bidding closes on
    :2025年12月20日 21時28分
  • Auction Number
    :q1212341352
  • Condition
    :Damaged and stained (specify in description)
  • Automatic Extension
    :Yes
  • Authentication
    :Yes(Description)
  • Early Closing
    :Yes
  • Can I return the product?
    :no
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  1. Plug-in electrical appliances are only shipped by air (shipping by sea requires commodity inspection)
【銘機】Thorens トーレンス TD124 MkII 9万番台 付属品多数

商品説明
トーレンスTD124 MkII 最後期型の9万番台です。
安定した動作をしています。

124は初期型を求める方が多いようですが、個人的にはMKIIの最後期型を選ばれた方が良いと思います。
小生は以下の3タイプの124を同時に保有していました。
・124初期プラスティック軸受け、銚子グレイにて完全な整備をしたものを購入
・124後期型金属軸受け
・124MKII 最後期9万番台(出品のもの)


まず124は磁性体のターンテーブルを採用しているため、MC型カートリッジを使用するとターンテーブルにくっついてしまうため、
針圧を軽めに設定するようにしますが、盤の反りによりターンテーブルへの貼りつき度合が変わってしまいます。つまり針圧を一定にできません。
また、ここ20年ぐらいのSPUは磁力が強いので使用することはできないと考えてもらってよいと思います。もちろん、現代の磁力の強いカートリッジは不可です。
以前、ベンツマイクロを使いたいと思いましたが、マイナスの針圧としましたが、それでもだめでした。
グレイが推奨するように、124にはM44などのMMカートリッジでないと難しいように思います。

MKIIは非磁性体のターンテーブルですので、このようなことはありません。
音質ですが、124初期型は柔らかくほっこりとした音楽を奏でます。古いモノラル盤などでは素晴らしいと思います。
ただ、音場感の表現力には乏しく、後期型になるほど音場型になります。音場型といっても、そこは124ですので現代のプレーヤーと比較すると、
柔らかで甘く、暖かみのある音色です。

MKIIの最後期型9万番台は静粛性、音楽性といったトーレンスが目指す方向における一つの頂点であり124の完成形だと思います。
MKIIでも初期(5万番台)から中期(8万番台中盤)と後期型とでは明確に音が違います。
後期型以外のMKIIだと124のほうがはるかに音が良く、この点からMKIIの音が誤解されているのだと思います。

9万番台が音の良い理由として以下が考えられるようです。
・ベアリング精度の向上
・アイドラーの加工精度の安定
・シャシーの共振対策の成熟

こちらもご参考に
https://blog.livedoor.jp/thorens/archives/52047434.html

付属品として以下をお付けします。
・台座
・新品のベルト(現在、ついているものも5年ほど前に交換したもので問題ありません。)
・SME用、Ortofon用のアームボード(Ortofon用のものは傷が多いです。)
・グレイで購入時にいただいたマニュアルコピー
注意事項
状態はとても良いと思いますが、ノークレームノーリターンでお願いします。
発送は140サイズになると思います。
124用のボード、アームを出品していますので、よろしければご覧ください。
こちらの商品案内は 「■@即売くん5.40■」 で作成されました。

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この他にも出品しておりますので宜しければご覧ください。


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